Rogers Trade = Value or Bust?

Why does a trade need to be one sided to end up a success??


S. Rogers will likely do well this year in Cleveland, and significantly help what was a horrendous Dline last year.

Leigh Bodden will be a significant improvement over the starting CB's last season, and don't forget the Lions ALSO got 24k Smith in that trade too with Celveland's Third round pick.
Even if S Rogers is pro-bowl, if the Lions get 2 solid starters (and I think K. Smith has pro-bowl potential if the O-Line steps up) then I would say both teams came up better for having made the trade.

However, those Browns fans saying Bodden will be injured could be right -- but Mr. Rogers hasn't exactly been Mr. Durable -- with three different knee surgeries, as well as shoulder surgery in the last year and a half or so.

I think the media portrayal right now focuses more on Rogers because the Browns are their "up and coming team" and "best team not to make the playoffs" -- Like the 49ers the ifseason before, and Miami the ifeason before that.

One thing I've noticed is that, in terms of trades, it seems as though one side must be the "winner" and one the "loser". This is something I have yet to understand -- does it generate any less readership to talk about how two GM's are brilliant in a trade that helps both of their teams improve? Would not a reputation for fair trading help a GM in future negotiations?

the very definition of trade is, according to dictionary.com:

3. An exchange of items, usually without payment of money.

I didn't see anywhere in there where one person needs to get better "value" than the other. Granted, this does happen often in trades, especially in Football. We also have to keep in mind that a player who is a huge asset to one team, and thus valuable, my be less valued to a team with greater depth and/or talent at the position. "Value" is a variable commodity that can vary greatly team by team, and over time. Does a skill set fit with the system in use? Durability? Age/injury history compared to alternatives? Can you improve another area with a draft pick obtained, and will it outweigh what you have to give up for it?

As with most ifseason happenings, we won't know whether it was Millen who made out like a bandit, Savage who did, if they both got perschnookered, or if they both look like geniuses. For that evaluation, only time will tell. Rogers wasn't happy here, and Bodden wasn't happy in Cleveland.

While I know many of us, rightly so, question Millen's track record in trades - I'm going to wait and see before I declare it a boom or bust -- no matter how much S. Rogers feels loved now.

Hollyweed et al -- don't despair! The stories will once again be flowing regularly. I can't promise every day, but it will certainly be more than twice per week. I'm not a Broken Ninja yet!

Just Our Luck...

Degman on Mlive forum posted this, and I LMAO:

"With our luck the Lions will be 14-0 Dec. 20th 2012 and favored to win the superbowl."

Favorite Response?

If the Lions are 14-0 that is one of the signs of the Apocolaypse!

Have a great Monday everyone!!

Bubble Cuts Accelerate

Detroit Lions 2008 Roster Transactions
Date Transaction
June 24 The Lions place DT SHEMIAH LEGRANDE on RESERVE/INJURED.
June 23 The Lions release RB ALLEN ERVIN, WR GREG LEE, DT JONATHAN LEWIS and

TE BUCK REED.
June 17 The Lions release WR DARRELL BLACKMAN, DB JUSTIN SANDERS and DB

RONYELL WHITAKER.
May 29 The Lions sign DT SHEMIAH LEGRANDE.
May 20 The Lions sign WR GREG LEE and release TE CLARK HARRIS.
May 15 The Lions sign DB RONYELL WHITAKER and release DB PACINO HORNE.
May 14 The Lions sign DB STEPHEN HOWELL, DT JONATHAN LEWIS and TE BUCK

REED and release DB BOBBIE WILLIAMS.
May 13 The Lions sign undrafted rookie free agent DB JUSTIN SANDERS.
May 12 The Lions sign undrafted free agent G MATT BUTLER

NetRat highlighted that with the latest cuts last week, the Lions are down to enough space to sign all but 2 of their draft picks. Sadly, my dark-horse practice squad player Allen Ervin is not going to make it to camp.

Right now, the front office staff is expected back to Allen Park around the 14th - 16th. Expect the Lions to start signing players after that. Right now, no telling how quickly it will go but my guess is that they will have everyone signed in plenty of time for camp near the end of the month.

I'll post the camp roster once it is more solidified, and then we can start making more guesses as to who the bubble cuts are, and who will make the final roster.

Comment Etiquette

Hope everyone had a great 4th of July!



There is a site issue that I would like to address in regards to comments, before it gets out of hand. While I appreciate your comments on the Lions, and your ideas, greatly -- there have been a growing number of "complaint" posts. I have revieced about a half dozen emails on this issue as well, and felt it needs to be addressed, and then moved on past.



While I like to have an open forum for well supported ideas and banter in regards to the Lions, I will NOT tolerate personal attacks of any kind in the comments section -- please keep it civil. Despite what many in our Jerry-Springer society practice, you can disagree without slinging insults.



In particular, I would prefer if the bashing of other sites' forums -- and in particular, indivduals posters on Mlive and other Forums, NOT be done here. It's along the lines of "fire millen" to me -- we can draw our own conclusions, what is the point?



Please keep "personal" negative experiences, opinions to the forum in which they are relevant - and if you have an issue with an indvidual poster, please take it up with them directly elsewhere (like via email or on another forum) and not here.



While this is not out of hand yet, it was fast approaching such. I don't want to be a prick -- but I don't want this to be a site akin to the Yahoo or National forums where there is so much "no I'm a better fan, you're a hter, you're a slappy, lions suck" crap to wade through that even skimming for intelligent thought is near impossible.



Should this type of posting continue, I'd hate to have to start using the delete button -- or edit posts to leave in the great football thoughts, but leave out the personal poison. (I would copy, edit, re-post under my name and credit you). I don't want ot take that step, so lets just try to mind our P's and Q's while commenting. While there are only 15-20 people who post regularly, there are a couple hundred who read daily, as well as those who email thoughts. (which are always welcome) I'm sure they're here to read about Lions thoughts too, not the latest in the Hatfield-McCoy feud.



The comments that are posted here also reflect on me, and the Blog I run. WWDF79 do?



I appreciate your readership, and thanks for letting me take the time to address this issue.



Is it time for camp yet??!?!?

Happy Independence Day!

This is a shot of DetFan1979 a month or so ago during the "Be a Tourist in Your Own Home Town" in Lansing. Mrs. DetFan1979 and I took our girls to the Capital Building, and the Michigan Historical Museum, among other places. It's a great event that helps remind us there are plenty of great things to see and learn right near where we live.

In this shot, Lions regalia is on full display -- along with a beautiful vintage Civil War Rifle with Bayonet, courtesy of the 7th Michigan Volunteer Infantry, Company B, Inc. If I had more time, I would like to join -- and help educate people about this important piece in the history of our country.

As we all celebrate our freedom this July 4th, lets not forget that Freedom is not just something we won a long time ago, it is something we need to fight to maintain.

Happy Independence Day!!

(For those who are wondering, the little red dot in the "O" in Detroit is a lady bug sticker my youngest daughter gave to me to wear. Of course I did, she's one of Daddy's little angel-cubs.)

PS - I added pictures to give even more life to the broken ninjas, that they may live forever in the DetFan1979 Archives.