tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post8706491351452212782..comments2023-10-31T09:01:00.362-04:00Comments on Detroit Lions Fan 1979: Position Battles: RB/FB/TEDetFan1979http://www.blogger.com/profile/02632685989381122197noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post-33307833182271654072008-05-21T21:37:00.000-04:002008-05-21T21:37:00.000-04:00I see Calhoun as the key to the RB roster selectio...I see Calhoun as the key to the RB roster selections. If he looks good, then Bell could find the door.<BR/>Smith<BR/>Calhoun<BR/>Cason<BR/>Bradley<BR/>Felton<BR/><BR/>If one of the backs gets nicked up you could see them go on PUP until midseason, and would be a mid season replacement if somebody else goes down. <BR/><BR/>The key is Calhoun. If he looks as good as Bell in preseason then Calhoun gets the #2 spot because of special teams. There is a possibility that it's Smith, Bell & Calhoun. <BR/><BR/>Bottom line is I think Calhoun makes the team.<BR/><BR/>The Lions may try to hide Moore as a WR in the preseason games, and only show him as a special teamer. It would be hard for somebody to pick him off waivers and give him a roster spot. So he will get waived and signed to the practice squad. A guy that can play multiple spots on the practice squad would be valuable, and if they need bodies later in the season they can bring him up.JJLions20https://www.blogger.com/profile/14086949813455327048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post-15941209467707336802008-05-21T08:36:00.000-04:002008-05-21T08:36:00.000-04:00Not to get off track, but Moore is in a hell of a ...Not to get off track, but Moore is in a hell of a battle.<BR/><BR/>Last year's camp showed three guys that can really CATCH the ball. There was a huge battle with the 5th receiver spot.<BR/><BR/>Troy Walter was a vet and fitted the "Mike Martz mold". Bellamy and Middleton had hands like pine tar, and definately didin't lose the job. DeVale Ellis was on IR all year and may be better than them. Both DeVale and Brandon can return kicks (which probably leaves the ex-Wolverine Bellamy out of the mix). Walters wasn't re-signed, but Bellamy, Middleton, and Ellis will all be there, ready to challenge Moore for that 5th reciver slot.<BR/><BR/>-nubsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post-7868039746225194972008-05-20T23:12:00.000-04:002008-05-20T23:12:00.000-04:00redding is the leg injury -- Sims injured his shou...redding is the leg injury -- Sims injured his shoulder. This is a correction of an earlier comment. <BR/><BR/>As for Thurman, there is more going on there than we are seenig -- someone (not sure the Lions) will give him a chance at minimum salary...but if no one does, then we will know that whatever it is we dont know is pretty major.DetFan1979https://www.blogger.com/profile/02632685989381122197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post-54624916096921418052008-05-20T22:31:00.000-04:002008-05-20T22:31:00.000-04:00Calhoun was in the sme type of Zone scheme for run...Calhoun was in the sme type of Zone scheme for running in college. However, based on the look at the available players, lets see:<BR/><BR/>Assumption: If 24K is injured, who replaces?<BR/><BR/>Bell: He is serviceable, but tends to get out of shape and malcontetented when not used often -- he really doesn't contribute on ST so...<BR/><BR/>Calhoun in conjunction with Felton and either Pinner/Allen/Moore would be able to hande the RB situation until 24K was back good. On this score, we may be surprised to see that help Pinner get onto the team as he could be an every-down style backup, with Calhoun and Felton there for situtional/shared backfield. Yet, unlike Bell, he would be a major contributor to the coverage/return units. <BR/><BR/>Any way you slice it, I can see the evidence for what everyone is saying -- which as someone pointed out so well -- it is great the Lions have talent to compete for spots; cutting talent is hard and great all at the same time -- tough because talented guys are let go -- but great because it means everyone else on the team was more talented. <BR/><BR/>RB/FB/TE will be positions to watch as the offseason gets going!DetFan1979https://www.blogger.com/profile/02632685989381122197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post-82053800513018421432008-05-20T13:37:00.000-04:002008-05-20T13:37:00.000-04:00I see 2 Battles:1)Non-ST, Backup RB-Bell vs Calhou...I see 2 Battles:<BR/>1)Non-ST, Backup RB-Bell vs Calhoun And I just have trouble believing Calhoun could be an everydown back, We will need 1 reliable backup everydown back.<BR/><BR/>2)Pinner vs Cason- Which I really believe will be decided by whether or not Moore or Allen can handle the KR/PR job. because that is Cason's only value, Pinner is or can be on coverage units.<BR/><BR/>Side note-I like the sound of Allen and I don't believe we can count on him being on our practice squad. so I believe he would have to lose the KR job outright to not make the roster.<BR/><BR/>Another point of interest. Calhoun is/can be a great 3rd down back, but can we keep him on that merit alone?<BR/><BR/>Let me pose the question this way to see what you guys think. If Smith goes down who is your favorite to be getting the bulk of the carries? I'm especially interested to hear peoples reasoning on this issue<BR/><BR/>My thoughts-I like Calhoun and I'm not a huge fan of Bell especially when he's not showing dedication already. However if Smith were not getting the carries, I would have to go with Bell. Unless someone different all together steps up(Allen). Because I still see Calhoun as a change of pace back not an everydown guy.ClusterFoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03703740676309148920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post-73859035076286148722008-05-20T12:23:00.000-04:002008-05-20T12:23:00.000-04:00I read they released him because he didn't show up...I read they released him because he didn't show up to voluntary meetings they wanted him to be at, because of his Grandma dying.<BR/><BR/><BR/>I have to agree with Detfan1979 about Calhoun, if he stays healthy he should show up every one else and take the #2 spot. Something tells me that Bell is as good as gone.They say Calhoun has his speed back so we'll see. I hope we get to see what Felton has to offer quite often, because that will mean we are in a lot of 3rd and short situations, which will be a welcome change.<BR/><BR/>TW from ORAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post-39685394879839431082008-05-20T09:28:00.000-04:002008-05-20T09:28:00.000-04:00It is my understanding that he had a substance abu...It is my understanding that he had a substance abuse problem and was already on probation. His cutting from CIN was because he was arrested last week for drunk driving and they were expecting the league to suspend him for a year. If he was not drunk and was not having a relapse, then maybe he would be a decent pick up, but who would we cut to make room for him?Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16140201494383877984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post-44552836277518812182008-05-20T08:53:00.000-04:002008-05-20T08:53:00.000-04:00It is my understanding that he had a substance abu...It is my understanding that he had a substance abuse problem and was already on probation. His cutting from CIN was because he was arrested last week for drunk driving and they were expecting the league to suspend him for a year. If he was not drunk and was not having a relapse, then maybe he would be a decent pick up, but who would we cut to make room for him?Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16140201494383877984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post-22944214805833609882008-05-20T08:18:00.000-04:002008-05-20T08:18:00.000-04:00A bit off topic, but what do you think about the L...A bit off topic, but what do you think about the Lions picking up Odel Thurman, recently released by the Bengals?<BR/><BR/>KCLion FanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post-66691961478554365452008-05-20T07:07:00.000-04:002008-05-20T07:07:00.000-04:00I think Moore hangs as that 5th reciever. He does...I think Moore hangs as that 5th reciever. He does not drop passes. Perfect for the slot which is where he would play if he actually did play. Sort of reminds me of Mike Furrey, except a little stronger. Calhoun, Marinelli already spoke highly of him, and said nothing about Bell. To me, that says a lot in itself. Anytime your Starting running back shows up to camp overweight, sends a message of a lack of committment. If Coach is big on committment, then I have a hard time seeing Bell make the cut...Coach has already cut people for the same reason, why not here as well. I think they will have 6 rb's. 4 TB and 2fb<BR/>Smith, Calhoun, Pinner(st) and Allen(st)<BR/>Felton(sy) and Bradley(starting fb)<BR/>For once the coaching staff has their work cut out for them...Having choices for talent on this team.Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16140201494383877984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post-77645361853203894702008-05-20T01:54:00.000-04:002008-05-20T01:54:00.000-04:00It's Bell vs. Pinner vs. AllenThe winner joins Smi...It's Bell vs. Pinner vs. Allen<BR/><BR/>The winner joins Smith, Calhoun, Bradley, and Felton.<BR/><BR/>If Moore can't hang as the fifth wide out, it may get interesting.<BR/><BR/>-nubsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post-56649703525807182572008-05-19T22:55:00.000-04:002008-05-19T22:55:00.000-04:00I do not see Bell as a lock to make the team. The ...I do not see Bell as a lock to make the team. The only locks barring injury are IMO Smith, Felton and Bradley. Smith for the obvious reasons will make the team. Felton is just like Detfan said a younger Duckett whom the coaches wanted to keep. Bradley is straight up power football. Maybe he can also be used in max protect situations.<BR/>As for the others, I think that the Lions like Calhoun and want to use him as a change of pace back.Bell is in control of his own destiny. He must show more dedication and hunger to be the starter. Even when he was with Denver he got beat out of the starting position by a rookie no less. Bear in mind, that once Smith becomes the starter these the other backs will have a more limited role on the team. Will Bell be OK with that for yet another year? I think he will accept being the backup however if he does not then the Lions will keep Pinner instead. They will not keep both Bell and Pinner though. So I hope Bell proves he wants it. Cason can be cut now as far as I'm concern I think he was only on the team because every else kept getting hurt. He is not all that as a RB and I think that Moore or even this kid Allen can do as good as a returner. <BR/>Therefore, here is my depth chart:<BR/>RB: Smith, Bell, Calhoun<BR/>FB: Bradley, Felton<BR/>TE: Campbell, Gaines, Fitzsimmons<BR/>KR: Moore or Allen with the loser as the fourth RB or practice squad.<BR/>LionfaninPAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post-83588579858119070262008-05-19T22:11:00.000-04:002008-05-19T22:11:00.000-04:00I actually agree pretty with Chief all the way on ...I actually agree pretty with Chief all the way on this. Calhoun hasn't done much of anything in this league even though he's been given chances time and times again. Plus he doesn't do too much on ST.<BR/><BR/>I think Cason and Pinner will duke it out for 3rd RB with Cason probably winning due to his return skills.<BR/><BR/>Bell doesn't give much to the ST, but he has a lot of experience and he produced results in a zone-blocking scheme back in his Denver days. So long as he gets back in shape I think he'll make the depth chart no problem and may even be starting opening day if Smith takes a while to transition.<BR/><BR/>Here's my depth Chart:<BR/><BR/>RB: K. Smith, T. Bell, Cason<BR/><BR/>FB: Bradley, Felton (who will also play RB in GL situations)<BR/><BR/>-StreetWormAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post-16944171873605573232008-05-19T17:23:00.000-04:002008-05-19T17:23:00.000-04:00already saidthe locks in my oppinion of going into...already said<BR/>the locks in my oppinion of going into training camp are bell,smith,cason , bradly and felton<BR/>all will make it except for maybe cason who could be beat out as the kick returner-<BR/>bell and cason could be beat out later by calhoun.pinner but i see the ones as i picked as the training camp locks making the team and they might add pinner because he does well and can play special teams-i see calhoun being cut-just my thoughts-det fan 1979 may see favortism towards a player i dont see-but i think they will take into consideration how bell helped us early on and it was martz who had it in for him-if he tries i see him as smiths backup not calhoun.i also see us keeping 2 fullbacks unlike you-they will be part of our team now and we should see several plays now with 2 backs in the backfield-my oppinion.<BR/>LIONS GREAT IN 2008-PLAYOFFS AND BEYOND!!CHIEFGER139https://www.blogger.com/profile/10541341856809330039noreply@blogger.com