tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post5447822972159271775..comments2023-10-31T09:01:00.362-04:00Comments on Detroit Lions Fan 1979: $3500 CandlesticksDetFan1979http://www.blogger.com/profile/02632685989381122197noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post-555419582888096682008-07-26T22:45:00.000-04:002008-07-26T22:45:00.000-04:00CHIEFSounds like you have money down.-nubsCHIEF<BR/><BR/>Sounds like you have money down.<BR/><BR/>-nubsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post-61966517718488148992008-07-26T16:22:00.000-04:002008-07-26T16:22:00.000-04:00well it looks like cherlious is in way over his he...well it looks like cherlious is in way over his head-hope this is not the case as we sould of got otah-or a better linebacker like lofton and of course a much better rb like mendenhall or forte-heard smith stunk it up today with pads on-wasnt to displeased with smith he has the size i wanted-just hope we didnt screw up as usual!! your thoughts-chelious the beast or cherlious the bust!! remember albert was available too-and heard dizon's 3rd string?? i thought dizon was the biggest reach of all he better not end up third string or i'll be pissed!! our biggest need was mlb and he better be the guy that can back up the dl and stop the run or ill be pissed!!CHIEFGER139https://www.blogger.com/profile/10541341856809330039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post-38521188426479826872008-07-25T13:48:00.000-04:002008-07-25T13:48:00.000-04:00Thats right lawyers work for their clients. Just r...Thats right lawyers work for their clients. <BR/><BR/>Just read what Cherilus told his agent[s]/lawyer[s]....<BR/><BR/>"""""Detroit Lions first-round pick Gosder Cherilus was adamant with his agents that he wanted to be signed by the time the team hit the field for its first practice Thursday.""""""<BR/><BR/>read rest of Windsor Star article here --> http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/story.html?id=771a8a6b-a107-4ba3-bf38-f5f22ed47018<BR/><BR/>Hope this kid isn't a head case.<BR/><BR/>Go Lions<BR/>5BakerstreetAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post-30290260714355474762008-07-25T10:16:00.000-04:002008-07-25T10:16:00.000-04:00Guys, I have an easy solution. if they are off b...Guys, I have an easy solution. if they are off by $1M, simply give him a $62.5K bonus for each game he starts in 2008. That's the difference. Then sign Spikes. If Dizon can beat Lennon out and play all 16 game, then he is worth the extra million. The longer he holds out the longer it will be that he actually starts.<BR/><BR/>It may mean cutting Bell to free up the cap space. But I'd rather have Spikes and Dizon, then Bell.JJLions20https://www.blogger.com/profile/14086949813455327048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post-63550527761520151772008-07-25T08:53:00.000-04:002008-07-25T08:53:00.000-04:00Nubsnobber -- Love how Idiots=AgentWe are in compl...Nubsnobber -- <BR/><BR/>Love how Idiots=Agent<BR/><BR/>We are in complete agreeance on their greed and incompetence. I don't see how they can say they are doing what is "best" for the player -- best for him would be in camp. <BR/><BR/>I wasn't thinking of the cap when I cranked that comment out at 2am. on the Lions needing 500k. If Dizon's Idiots were doing their job, they would realize that as well, and compromise on this first contract. If he plays like he has the "p" word to, the Lions have already shown a wilingness to rework deals to give guys their due. <BR/><BR/>I also think, looking at Netrat's cap analysis on the next post, that if they did drop Bodden's base to vet min (which he is guessing they did) it is a pretty good net cap savings -- my guess is, they did it to <BR/><BR/>A. reward Bodden<BR/>B. Make it more likely to land Spikes to shore up a weak LB corps<BR/>C. Fincher and Gardner must not be showing anythign great yet, or they wouldn't be so worried.<BR/><BR/>It appears they have numbers at LB, but not the players they need yet in regards to starters or potential starters.<BR/><BR/>I still think you were dead on a couple of months ago when you said to watch out for Alex Lewis - he is healthy and motivated to get the starting job now that he has a legit chance at it. <BR/><BR/><BR/>My guess is they know how much they can payDetFan1979https://www.blogger.com/profile/02632685989381122197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post-23600320229105206982008-07-25T05:07:00.000-04:002008-07-25T05:07:00.000-04:00That's the other issue I forgot to include, and wa...That's the other issue I forgot to include, and was my point for posting.<BR/><BR/>If Spikes is still a wish for the Lions and they are VERY close to being capped out (cap numbers wise); they may need an extra $300,000-$500,000 to sign Takeo. netrat's list is close to accurate, but you've had some Lions cut (Dunn) and Campbell won't be signed; so I don't know where the Lions are #'s wise. And the rookie signings are usually TBA, they don't give numbers for a few days because it takes a few times to crunch all the incentive bonuses to figure out salary vs. cap salary.<BR/><BR/>-nubsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post-74236658542789845012008-07-25T01:44:00.000-04:002008-07-25T01:44:00.000-04:00What is $500,000 to having Dizon get enough experi...What is $500,000 to having Dizon get enough experience to start this season, and not be behind on the offense? <BR/><BR/>do both sides really need the candlesticks that badly?DetFan1979https://www.blogger.com/profile/02632685989381122197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post-67665442918659484652008-07-25T01:43:00.000-04:002008-07-25T01:43:00.000-04:00I'm saying they shouldn't wait -- say they meet at...I'm saying they shouldn't wait -- say they meet at around 4.5 and get it done NOW, or YESTERDAY -- isn't the half mil worth the practice time that will irreparibly hurt the team and the player? <BR/><BR/>Dizon needs to tell his agent he's making enough, get it done -- 4.25, 4.35 -- whatever it takes. <BR/><BR/>Because if it isn't done soon, the Lions will have less incentive to give in -- they are ready, as you indicated, to roll with Lenon and Lewis (or Spikes) at LB with Sims. <BR/><BR/>And if Dizon si at 5, and Lions at 4 -- then they are half a mil apart --- I ind 300k as my example (4.2 to 4.8 would be 300k apart to me -- the amount additional needed by the Lions to give, and other side to surrender, to make the deal happen)<BR/><BR/>Nice observation on 4th LB picked versus draft slot. <BR/><BR/>If he's not signed when I wake up, my opinion of him will ahve dropped another notch. This is work on it 24 hour a day territory, not sit back and see territory.DetFan1979https://www.blogger.com/profile/02632685989381122197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8276344251743982154.post-17057981000100586072008-07-25T01:30:00.000-04:002008-07-25T01:30:00.000-04:00Jordan Dizon is about to expereince a nut kicking....Jordan Dizon is about to expereince a nut kicking. The Takeo Spikes issue is NOT a scare tactic to get Jordan Dizon into a contract (and camp) quicker.<BR/><BR/>They know this kid can play, but the Detroit Lions football team is seriously thinking about signing Spikes and sliding him to SLB while Dizon sits behind Lenon.<BR/><BR/>The Lions see a great future, Dizon thinks he's the next coming of Patrick Willis.<BR/><BR/>I wish these two sides were only bickering about "chump" change.<BR/><BR/>The problem is, Dizon's idiots see a chance to make some extra money. They don't want Jordan to get paid where he is slotted. They want him to be paid like the 4th best linebacker.<BR/> 2008<BR/>2008 Keith Rivers (1) 9th pick<BR/>Jerod Mayo (1) 10th pick<BR/>Curtis Lofton (2) 37th pick<BR/>Jordan Dizon (2) 45th pick<BR/> 2007<BR/>Patrick Willis (1) 11th pick <BR/>Lawrence Timmons (1) 15th pick<BR/>Jon Beason (1) 25th pick<BR/>Paul Posluszny (2) 34th pick<BR/>David Harris (2) 47th pick<BR/><BR/>Puz was 4yr/$5 million<BR/>Harris 4yr/$3.5 million<BR/><BR/>That's more than a little difference for 13 spots. <BR/><BR/>Now, Dizon was picked between RB Matt Forte of the Bears (who signed a 4yr/? deal. After Dizon, is Jessica Simpson WR for the Cincinnati Bengals, and she hasn't signed. After Jessica, Trevor Laws has signed a four year deal, but those terms haven't been announced yet.<BR/><BR/>I would bet the Dizon camp is near $5 million and the Lions are near $4 million. I could buy a few candlesticks with that "leftover" cash.<BR/><BR/>Once the terms of Laws and Forte are announced, it should probably bring some more clarity to the subject.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com